Just a few days ago, my very good friend cum my mentor PMed me. He told me that I am inclined towards LIBERALISM. So he suggested me to read more hadith so that I won't trespass the 'line' and not arguing and questioning as I like as what I'd be questioning might be the truth from the Prophet. His saying that he was like me before as in; I believe I am above religion and all Islamists are stupid, turned me to a very confused state, or more to 'what the hell?'
First of all:
I have no problem with his advice that I should read more hadith. It's true that everybody must increase knowledge of prophetic tradition in order to live an exemplary life. The Prophet is the epitome of the perfect human being, so it's logical if you want to live as the truest servant of God, the Prophet should be the guide and his Sunnah is the guideline. It's an order from Allah too. No true believer can argue that.
I have to be perfectly clear about this as I'll be explaining issues that somehow people would see my statements contradictory, except for those who have the brilliance and intelligence; these people would have no problem to follow my arguments and they wouldn't feel I am arrogant because I am merely stating the fact. The irony is mostly people would feel the opposite despite saying they understand my words.
Secondly,
I admit that I was so pissed off with his messages. It's accusing, bias and prejudicial. Despite his true advice, his statements about me was merely his assumptive conclusion, and he didn't bring anything to prove his claim that I am inclined towards liberalism. So it's pointless to entertain it. Sorry bro, if you want to accuse me of something, bring the proof. Otherwise, I'd be stupid to believe everything you said and I am not stupid.
Thirdly,
Let's see the reasons of why I should not take his statements seriously ie not to accept his presumptive idea about me. Alas, who knows me better than myself (cliche'). Because seriously, it makes me dumb if I accepted his baseless statements.
1- He said that he saw me moving towards the liberal thinking.
The problems were:
2 - 'I am above religion'
3 - 'All Islamist are stupid' - he believes I think that way.
So here are things that you guys should know about me:
First of all:
I have no problem with his advice that I should read more hadith. It's true that everybody must increase knowledge of prophetic tradition in order to live an exemplary life. The Prophet is the epitome of the perfect human being, so it's logical if you want to live as the truest servant of God, the Prophet should be the guide and his Sunnah is the guideline. It's an order from Allah too. No true believer can argue that.
I have to be perfectly clear about this as I'll be explaining issues that somehow people would see my statements contradictory, except for those who have the brilliance and intelligence; these people would have no problem to follow my arguments and they wouldn't feel I am arrogant because I am merely stating the fact. The irony is mostly people would feel the opposite despite saying they understand my words.
Secondly,
I admit that I was so pissed off with his messages. It's accusing, bias and prejudicial. Despite his true advice, his statements about me was merely his assumptive conclusion, and he didn't bring anything to prove his claim that I am inclined towards liberalism. So it's pointless to entertain it. Sorry bro, if you want to accuse me of something, bring the proof. Otherwise, I'd be stupid to believe everything you said and I am not stupid.
Thirdly,
Let's see the reasons of why I should not take his statements seriously ie not to accept his presumptive idea about me. Alas, who knows me better than myself (cliche'). Because seriously, it makes me dumb if I accepted his baseless statements.
1- He said that he saw me moving towards the liberal thinking.
The problems were:
- He didn't quote any of my statements to show my 'liberalness'
- He didn't show me where my statements were problematic as in; this is right and this is wrong, and he didn't explain why.
- What kind of liberal that he actually meant and he couldn't accept or in other word contradicting the religion?
- Even though what I wrote might have the same note with the 'liberals', he has no right to call me liberal, as obviously that would be the way he could dismiss my argument with no critical explanation (he did that so many time). As much as I want to call him conservative, I do not want to stoop that low and I tried hard to see through his arguments. (Believe me, it's hard to bear the torture of being accused baselessly). And basically, I could argue a lot of his problematic fallacious statements but I didn't. I was and am so lazy to argue.
2 - 'I am above religion'
- Did I say that?
- What made he think that I think I am above religion? He didn't answer.
- He should explain this point so that I could explain to him what I was thinking. Not accusing me just like that without any proof. Proof bro, again, proof.
3 - 'All Islamist are stupid' - he believes I think that way.
- Seriously mate, you shouldn't have a problem with this statement. If you want to say otherwise, prove it. Don't just say I am wrong thinking that way.
- That's obviously stupid argument for saying that I am wrong. Because Islamists are not Islam.
- Their deductions and opinions are also affected by their own bias, be it misogynistic ideas (I can prove this matter-of-factly), culture, ignorance of other worldly knowledge, literal interpretation (which is of course a stupidity). Lack of knowledge is obviously the reason of their biasness. I am seriously saying this; please read a lot of worldly materials so that you won't fall into this category.
- Okay, is that what I really think? Though I feel that, but to think that all Islamists are stupid is basically baseless. A lot of good and brilliant remarks I saw made by the Islamists. There you go, I don't believe ALL Islamists are stupid. Why didn't you bother to ask me that in the first place, dude?
So here are things that you guys should know about me:
- I don't care what you think, but if you care what I think, argue me with facts, solid and logical arguments.
- I have no problem you attacking my apparent idea and opinion, but I have problem you making personal attack on me. Seriously, this type of people makes my arguments worthless and pointless.
- I am open for you to disagree with me. It's fine. Just prove your point. We might come to agreement or disagreement, but your action contesting my opinion with your point maturely earns my respect, and regardless how disagree we may towards each other, I won't lose my respect towards you.
- I have serious problem with labeling. Why? Because it dismisses my opinions/points without proper contest. What more to explain if that is the kind of counter-argument? Obviously, this person doesn't want to listen any explanation other than me dropping it. It drives me mad when people don't tell me what's wrong with my argument as in: your argument is invalid because of this and that, but instead saying: your argument is wrong because it's what the liberals believe????? Seriously???? If it happened to be the same, then tell me what's wrong with it. Drop the labeling, then I can entertain your counter- argument. A mature and decent (intellectually) is what I am going to participate. Hey, again, I am okay for you to disagree with me. You have the right to prove your point, I'm all ears. But prove it with a decent argument not with one sided labeling.
- I am saying this very seriously: You label? Then you are not my level. Only people who can have mature discussion is the one who're on the same level as me.
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